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		<title>Robin Hood Tax? Beware the men in tights</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Graham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to support the new campaign for a &#8220;Robin Hood Tax&#8221; &#8211; really I do.  I understand the logic behind the Tobin Tax and have a lot of sympathy for the idea.  But there&#8217;s something about this campaign&#8230;  Actually, there are four problems I have with it:
Firstly, the name &#8220;Robin Hood [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://socialliberal.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/RHTlogo-1023x66.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-365" title="Robin Hood Tax logo" src="http://socialliberal.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/RHTlogo-1023x66-300x19.jpg" alt="Robin Hood Tax logo" width="300" height="19" /></a>I want to support the new campaign for a &#8220;<a href="http://robinhoodtax.org.uk/">Robin Hood Tax</a>&#8221; &#8211; really I do.  I understand the logic behind the Tobin Tax and have a lot of sympathy for the idea.  But there&#8217;s something about this campaign&#8230;  Actually, there are four problems I have with it:</p>
<p>Firstly, the name &#8220;Robin Hood Tax&#8221;.  On LabourList, Sarah Hayward has already suggested that <a href="http://www.labourlist.org/whats-in-a-name-problem-robin-hood-tax-sarah-hayward">inviting comparisons with your tax and thievery</a> may not exactly be a great idea.  But more to the point, it just isn&#8217;t accurate.  This isn&#8217;t a case of robbing from the rich to give to the poor; it is a case of robbing from the banking system &#8211; which we, the companies we work for and the pensions we hope will look after us in old age all participate in &#8211; and giving to the government.  I don&#8217;t wish to sound like a swivel-eyed libertarian, but I need to hear a stronger argument for how that would be genuinely redistributive before I sign up.  There is certainly an issue surrounding bankers awarding themselves unjustified bonuses, and you might call that a reverse Robin Hood effect, but it is by no means clear how this tax will tackle that.</p>
<p>Secondly, my old sparring partner Andy Mayer makes an interesting point on his Facebook page:</p>
<blockquote><p>The figure for global banking profits comes from the campaign website itself $788bn and refers to the year 2006, at the height of the boom. Using the same source as the campaign more recently, the 2008/09 profit figure is just near $120&#8230; hence this Tobin tax, if implemented, would be akin to a special corporation tax of between 50-350%.</p>
<p>In the last 8 years I there would only be 3 years where the industry could have afforded to pay it from profits. In the last year it would have had to have been taken direct from bail-out funds, a somewhat circular exercise for government.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now the Robin Hood Tax is not a tax on profits so there is a danger of comparing apples with oranges here, but the simple fact is that a charge has to go somewhere.  It either cuts into profits or it gets passed on to the customer.  I&#8217;m not, I have to confess, entirely clear what would happen precisely &#8211; there are lots of variables &#8211; but the Robin Hood Tax website doesn&#8217;t seem to want to enlighten me.  Perhaps the 0.05% level is too high?  Perhaps there should be other restrictions?  I have an open mind and would like to hear a debate; instead I&#8217;m just being asked to add a mask onto my twitter profile pic.</p>
<p>Thirdly, and this is where I really start to get nervous, the Robin Hood Tax is not the same thing as a Tobin Tax.  James Tobin&#8217;s proposal was intended specifically to attack currency speculation &#8211; not to raise revenue.  The Robin Hood Tax, according to their own blog <a href="http://robinhoodtax.org.uk/analysis/isnt-this-the-tobin-tax/">is intended to do the exact opposite</a>.</p>
<p>Why does that make me nervous?  Well because when it comes to taxes, I&#8217;m highly dubious about taxes on economic activity.  Economic activity is a good thing: it gives people jobs (and meaning).  Markets aren&#8217;t perfect and can create all sorts of anti-social problems but it isn&#8217;t the economic activity itself which is the problem but, generally, monopolisation and speculation.  Taxing all financial transactions equally won&#8217;t tackle bad economic activity any more than the good &#8211; it&#8217;s just another way of screwing money out of the rest of us.  What&#8217;s worse is that unlike the Tobin Tax, this idea isn&#8217;t about discouraging what is arguably a bad economic activity but profiting from it.  Speculation just ruined your economy?  Dont worry, here&#8217;s a sticking plaster courtesy of the Robin Hood Tax.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s introduce taxes that don&#8217;t create perverse economic incentives (such as land value taxation) before creating new ones that do.</p>
<p>Fourthly, there is the Richard Curtis factor. Okay, maybe it is a bit harsh to pick on Curtis, who does seem to mean well, but there&#8217;s something about his &#8220;love, actually&#8221; world view that makes my skin crawl.  To promote the campaign, he&#8217;s made this video starring Bill Nighy:</p>
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<p>Like most of Curtis&#8217; films, on a basic level it is harmless enough but as soon as you start thinking about it the more pernicious you realise it is.  Ooh, what a nasty greedy banker! Boo to him! This from the man who gave us the all white Notting Hill (which has now become a self-fulfilling prophecy courtesy of David Cameron and his pals).</p>
<p>Okay, maybe that last point isn&#8217;t a particularly strong one, but it is this sort of superficial, anti-intellectual marketing that has got the world in the mess it is today.  Is the Robin Hood Tax a brilliant idea?  Feel free to try convincing me, but spare me your celebrities, your claims that you can get money for nothing and your *gag* <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjHweYAMcrY">guerilla marketing exercises</a> (a protest at 4am? Edgy!).</p>
<p>Further reading:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Freethinking Economist:</strong> <a href="http://freethinkingeconomist.com/2010/02/11/the-curse-of-nef-tobin-taxes/">The curse of nef: Tobin Taxes</a></li>
<li><strong>Jane Watkinson:</strong> <a href="http://myliberaldemocratpoliticalramblings.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/tobin-or-not-tobin/">Tobin or not Tobin…</a></li>
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