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		<title>Comment on Do this or the kitten gets it ! Why “taming the Tories” won’t work by Stewart</title>
		<link>http://socialliberal.net/2013/05/21/do-this-or-the-kitten-gets-it-why-taming-the-tories-wont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-64706</link>
		<dc:creator>Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 11:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It really isn&#039;t enough. For every &quot;victory&quot; we have a few failures. And what are people going to remember? Tuition fees or raising the income tax threshold?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really isn&#8217;t enough. For every &#8220;victory&#8221; we have a few failures. And what are people going to remember? Tuition fees or raising the income tax threshold?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Government agrees to retain Equality Duty under pressure from SLF and EMLD by Race equality – a new Liberal Democrat approach: SLF/EMLD Conference takes place soon &#124; Social Liberal Forum</title>
		<link>http://socialliberal.net/2013/04/25/government-agrees-to-retain-equality-duty-under-pressure-from-slf-and-emld/comment-page-1/#comment-64118</link>
		<dc:creator>Race equality – a new Liberal Democrat approach: SLF/EMLD Conference takes place soon &#124; Social Liberal Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 07:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Thanks to a brilliantly effective campaign by EMLD (led by Baroness Meral Ece in the Lords) and the Social Liberal Forum, along with the Liberal Democrat Disability Association, we supported the amendments proposed by crossbencher Baroness Campbell and managed to pull some of this.... [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thanks to a brilliantly effective campaign by EMLD (led by Baroness Meral Ece in the Lords) and the Social Liberal Forum, along with the Liberal Democrat Disability Association, we supported the amendments proposed by crossbencher Baroness Campbell and managed to pull some of this&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on SLF in conversation with: Steve Webb MP, Minister for Pensions by Auto Enrolment and Your Business - New Pension Rules and Guidance &#124; Noobpreneur.com</title>
		<link>http://socialliberal.net/2013/05/10/slf-in-conversation-with-steve-webb-mp-minister-for-pensions/comment-page-1/#comment-63040</link>
		<dc:creator>Auto Enrolment and Your Business - New Pension Rules and Guidance &#124; Noobpreneur.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 03:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8220;With millions of people taking up pension saving for the first time under automatic enrolment, we have to give people confidence that they will get good value for money,&#8221; said Pensions Minister Steve Webb in a recent interview. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;With millions of people taking up pension saving for the first time under automatic enrolment, we have to give people confidence that they will get good value for money,&#8221; said Pensions Minister Steve Webb in a recent interview. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on SLF in conversation with: Steve Webb MP, Minister for Pensions by Jane Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 18:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can this man talk about &quot;lifting half a million out of poverty&quot; all the while ignoring the half million who suffer extreme poverty because he has not done as he pledged to do before the last election, that is end the frozen pension scandal. How about asking him that Janice? Many of these pensioners who have paid into the NI for more than forty years are trying to survive on less than £10 a week. How can this man constantly pat himself on the back about what a good job he is doing when this injustice is the elephant in the room?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can this man talk about &#8220;lifting half a million out of poverty&#8221; all the while ignoring the half million who suffer extreme poverty because he has not done as he pledged to do before the last election, that is end the frozen pension scandal. How about asking him that Janice? Many of these pensioners who have paid into the NI for more than forty years are trying to survive on less than £10 a week. How can this man constantly pat himself on the back about what a good job he is doing when this injustice is the elephant in the room?</p>
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		<title>Comment on SLF in conversation with: Steve Webb MP, Minister for Pensions by George Morley</title>
		<link>http://socialliberal.net/2013/05/10/slf-in-conversation-with-steve-webb-mp-minister-for-pensions/comment-page-1/#comment-62957</link>
		<dc:creator>George Morley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 18:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of the Universal Credit plan, he says,
 “it will lift over half a million men, women and children out of poverty.
Yes Steve , while the frozen pension policy puts half a million pensioners into it !
Some plan   Eh ?
Hey Steve, Does logic, morality or justice play any part in your work ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of the Universal Credit plan, he says,<br />
 “it will lift over half a million men, women and children out of poverty.<br />
Yes Steve , while the frozen pension policy puts half a million pensioners into it !<br />
Some plan   Eh ?<br />
Hey Steve, Does logic, morality or justice play any part in your work ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on SLF in conversation with: Steve Webb MP, Minister for Pensions by Andy Robertson-Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Robertson-Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 17:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Prateekbuch. As you have apparently re-jigged how comments work to eliminate the useless Spam the article created do you think you can re-jig how the Minister works and eliminate the useless policies he creates??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Prateekbuch. As you have apparently re-jigged how comments work to eliminate the useless Spam the article created do you think you can re-jig how the Minister works and eliminate the useless policies he creates??</p>
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		<title>Comment on SLF in conversation with: Steve Webb MP, Minister for Pensions by prateekbuch</title>
		<link>http://socialliberal.net/2013/05/10/slf-in-conversation-with-steve-webb-mp-minister-for-pensions/comment-page-1/#comment-62891</link>
		<dc:creator>prateekbuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 14:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[apologies for delay in moderating comments, we&#039;ve had a lot of spam so having to re-jig the way comments work, takes a while I&#039;m afraid

cheers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apologies for delay in moderating comments, we&#8217;ve had a lot of spam so having to re-jig the way comments work, takes a while I&#8217;m afraid</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>Comment on SLF in conversation with: Steve Webb MP, Minister for Pensions by Andy Robertson-Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Robertson-Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 03:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is Steve Webb also the moderator or is it because the truth sometimes hurts that it takes so long to get cleared?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Steve Webb also the moderator or is it because the truth sometimes hurts that it takes so long to get cleared?</p>
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		<title>Comment on SLF in conversation with: Steve Webb MP, Minister for Pensions by Jane Davies</title>
		<link>http://socialliberal.net/2013/05/10/slf-in-conversation-with-steve-webb-mp-minister-for-pensions/comment-page-1/#comment-62721</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How long does it take to moderate a comment? Three days so far who are you using that it take so long?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long does it take to moderate a comment? Three days so far who are you using that it take so long?</p>
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		<title>Comment on SLF in conversation with: Steve Webb MP, Minister for Pensions by Andy Robertson-Fox</title>
		<link>http://socialliberal.net/2013/05/10/slf-in-conversation-with-steve-webb-mp-minister-for-pensions/comment-page-1/#comment-62017</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Robertson-Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 05:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, Janice Turner concludes her report of the conversation with the Minister, Steve Webb, with the words &quot;I believe him&quot;

Let me assure you Janice Turner there are millions who do not.

I am a pensioner. 

At the beginning of my working life I applied for a National Insurance Stamp Card; I was required, as was my employer, to make mandatory weekly Contributions to the National Insurance Scheme. In return my &quot;contract&quot; with the government would in due time entitle me to an Old Age Pension. My contributions, if I married, would, unless she qualified in her own right, entitle us to a married person&#039;s allowance with my pension. Should I predecease my wife a pension, based on my NI contributions would be payable. 

Many women opted out and paid the so called &quot;small stamp&quot; as they had been encouraged to do by the government, being told that their husband&#039;s pension would cover their allowance. 

Now, using the red herring of &quot;the overseas spouse loophole&quot; he has reneged on that &quot;contract&quot;; no-one, except the compliant media, is fooled by the red herring - it is clearly aimed at UK residents and when you consider his isolated example of the American man being married to a British woman you can quickly appreciate how much he is scrapping the barrel in his flawed assessment. What he is actually doing is destroying the aspirations and budgeting plans of countless pensioners.

He says &quot;Fairness demanded that we had to change that situation, so we have&quot; but of, course, he hasn&#039;t.

Over half a million UK citizens world wide have their State Retirement Pension frozen at the rate it first becomes payable in the country of their retirement. His parliamentary colleague, Senior Treasury Minister, Oliver Letwin has described this policy as being &quot;a product of history not rationality&quot;. 

There is no legal, moral, financial or administrative justification for this policy against which he, Pensions Minister Webb, tabled an Early Day Motion (when in opposition) calling for the abolition of the iniquitous discriminatory Regulation Three. 

In his appearance before the DWP Select Committee considering the Pension Reform Bill his defence of the Frozen Pension policy was woeful and quite inaccurate, stating, for example, that the length of time the NI Contributor has spent in the overseas country should influence the rate of pension. Utter rubbish of course - it is the number of qualifying contribution years that are relevant. 

As a consequence of this disastrous discrimination one in every twenty five UK pensioners is condemned by the Minister to suffer a downward spiral in their quality of life with many ending their days in poverty.   Fairness, Minister?  You don&#039;t know the real meaning of the word!

Janice, under the heading of &quot;Approachable&quot; you say &quot;One of the most refreshing things about Steve Webb is, that unlike many politicians, he is welcoming of the opinions of others and always willing to listen to new arguments....&quot;. Is this some kind of joke on your part? 

If not, perhaps you could explain why he so naively ignored the Oxford Economic Report when the evidence is incontrovertible that adoption of an unfreezing policy would be to the economic advantage of the UK? 

Perhaps, too you could e explain why I and many others have never had a reply from him, have never had any form of justification for the frozen pension policy from him and why his Departmental Staff seem only proficient at cutting and pasting and never actually answer the questions that have been put to them. Approachable? Ivory Tower!

Finally, Janice, by your apparent defence of the Minister I cannot help but wonder just how old you are and how personally affected you are by his many pension follies, of which I have addressed just two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Janice Turner concludes her report of the conversation with the Minister, Steve Webb, with the words &#8220;I believe him&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me assure you Janice Turner there are millions who do not.</p>
<p>I am a pensioner. </p>
<p>At the beginning of my working life I applied for a National Insurance Stamp Card; I was required, as was my employer, to make mandatory weekly Contributions to the National Insurance Scheme. In return my &#8220;contract&#8221; with the government would in due time entitle me to an Old Age Pension. My contributions, if I married, would, unless she qualified in her own right, entitle us to a married person&#8217;s allowance with my pension. Should I predecease my wife a pension, based on my NI contributions would be payable. </p>
<p>Many women opted out and paid the so called &#8220;small stamp&#8221; as they had been encouraged to do by the government, being told that their husband&#8217;s pension would cover their allowance. </p>
<p>Now, using the red herring of &#8220;the overseas spouse loophole&#8221; he has reneged on that &#8220;contract&#8221;; no-one, except the compliant media, is fooled by the red herring &#8211; it is clearly aimed at UK residents and when you consider his isolated example of the American man being married to a British woman you can quickly appreciate how much he is scrapping the barrel in his flawed assessment. What he is actually doing is destroying the aspirations and budgeting plans of countless pensioners.</p>
<p>He says &#8220;Fairness demanded that we had to change that situation, so we have&#8221; but of, course, he hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Over half a million UK citizens world wide have their State Retirement Pension frozen at the rate it first becomes payable in the country of their retirement. His parliamentary colleague, Senior Treasury Minister, Oliver Letwin has described this policy as being &#8220;a product of history not rationality&#8221;. </p>
<p>There is no legal, moral, financial or administrative justification for this policy against which he, Pensions Minister Webb, tabled an Early Day Motion (when in opposition) calling for the abolition of the iniquitous discriminatory Regulation Three. </p>
<p>In his appearance before the DWP Select Committee considering the Pension Reform Bill his defence of the Frozen Pension policy was woeful and quite inaccurate, stating, for example, that the length of time the NI Contributor has spent in the overseas country should influence the rate of pension. Utter rubbish of course &#8211; it is the number of qualifying contribution years that are relevant. </p>
<p>As a consequence of this disastrous discrimination one in every twenty five UK pensioners is condemned by the Minister to suffer a downward spiral in their quality of life with many ending their days in poverty.   Fairness, Minister?  You don&#8217;t know the real meaning of the word!</p>
<p>Janice, under the heading of &#8220;Approachable&#8221; you say &#8220;One of the most refreshing things about Steve Webb is, that unlike many politicians, he is welcoming of the opinions of others and always willing to listen to new arguments&#8230;.&#8221;. Is this some kind of joke on your part? </p>
<p>If not, perhaps you could explain why he so naively ignored the Oxford Economic Report when the evidence is incontrovertible that adoption of an unfreezing policy would be to the economic advantage of the UK? </p>
<p>Perhaps, too you could e explain why I and many others have never had a reply from him, have never had any form of justification for the frozen pension policy from him and why his Departmental Staff seem only proficient at cutting and pasting and never actually answer the questions that have been put to them. Approachable? Ivory Tower!</p>
<p>Finally, Janice, by your apparent defence of the Minister I cannot help but wonder just how old you are and how personally affected you are by his many pension follies, of which I have addressed just two.</p>
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